I found Barbie to be a surprisingly good movie. It his some woke themes and dealt with them playfully instead of earnestly -- which is what good comedy should do. It made fun of over the top chip on the shoulder feminism AND over the top bro culture. It played fair.
I hadn't thought of it in Biblical terms, but you make some interesting points.
As for the two creation stories, I tend to think that the Sixth Day humans were the assorted pre-civilization humans and humanoids that predate the Young Earth timeline. Adam and Eve were made later. They were the first people to be given the Holy Spirit.
Note that the very first evidence of civilization is in the vicinity of Eden. Still a bit older than the standard Biblical timeline, but if tie together the geneologies of early Genesis in the same fashion as is done for the Hebrew exile in Egypt, Adam and Eve do correspond to the first civilized humans.
<<"I found Barbie to be a surprisingly good movie. It his some woke themes and dealt with them playfully instead of earnestly -- which is what good comedy should do. It made fun of over the top chip on the shoulder feminism AND over the top bro culture. It played fair.">>
Well put.
<<"As for the two creation stories, I tend to think that the Sixth Day humans were the assorted pre-civilization humans and humanoids that predate the Young Earth timeline. Adam and Eve were made later. They were the first people to be given the Holy Spirit.">>
That's an interesting possibility. Genesis really is the OG rabbit hole. There are so many interesting things in that book. Even though I disagree with the people who think it can be straightforwardly read in order to get the literal truth about God and human origins, I do think Genesis is full of profound and very mysterious insights.
This is the best analysis of this film that I have read by far! I try to be read up on all things esoteric, but I learned some new things today. Thanks!
It was a strange synchronicity that you wrote this, and Mark Bisone also wrote a piece challenging how we read/ understand some of the Old Testament stories. So much of it, is simply taken for granted. Whereas, you and Mark both hint that perhaps there is a more to the story, particularly the ones where “God” seems to act/ command in contradictory ways.
Yeah, I really enjoyed Mark's post and also was struck by how we were independently working along a similar theme. I think there's definitely something we're both picking up on. The OT has some great stuff, but it also has some questionable stuff, and I think the Bible has been deliberately warped and subverted by some malevolent social engineers.
A fascinating take on the movie, well done! I had a distinctly different take, which is that Barbie world represents the realm of the spirit, eternal. Or the demonic, if you will. So you have this realm of (evil) spirits who feel the desire to become flesh, as does Barbie, and as do some rather infamous biblical angels. She accomplishes this by creating an idol of herself to give to children, that replaces their ancestral instinct with her own will (cue the destroying motherhood scene). The shit-lib becomes her receptive medium, and she takes over (via subterfuge and feminine wiles) the wills and perhaps the souls of real living people. It is then perhaps a small step to becoming a ‘real girl’, or a demonic spirit occupying a real body.
This is all just my own paranoia, however it is true that the Barbie movie premiered at the same time as Oppenheimer, creating “Barbenheimer”. Some occultists state that the nuclear fission accomplished in 1945 was a kind of “gateway” opened between our physical dimension and a spiritual or demonic realm. Note how traveling in various mythic vehicles or archetypes is key to traveling between Barbie land (spirit world) and our physical world. Also note the tribe of Oppenheimer and Ruth Handler as enablers.
Very interesting possibility! The movie definitely has the theme of the memetic contagion of ideas and how ideas manifest in the "real world" and the relationships between the humans who have ideas and the ideas that have the humans.
Very interesting thanks for that retelling I will be interested to see the movie now.
When you mentioned the ending, checking in for her appointment and giving her name as “Barbara Handler.” She has taken her creator’s name, signifying her new identity.
It made me think of John 10:30 I and the Father are one, and Jesus made it clear that the kingdom of God was within you.
I think you might find this esoteric translation interesting as is the whole website,
I very much enjoyed your dive into the Eden myth at the beginning. There's something about that story (and the story of the Flood) that keeps me enthralled. I'm not especially interested in the Barbie movie but this is definitely the most fascinating related piece I've read!
With as much ink spilled interpreting what this movie was saying, it is very possibly a great movie. Time will tell. If these themes matter to people in the future, this movie will have achieved greatness.
I have not seen this. But I will get a copy and watch it and think on it. Too many Very Smart People have launched into lengthy diatribes on the meanings in this movie. It must have something in it to generate such interest with so many variations of interpretation.
I found Barbie to be a surprisingly good movie. It his some woke themes and dealt with them playfully instead of earnestly -- which is what good comedy should do. It made fun of over the top chip on the shoulder feminism AND over the top bro culture. It played fair.
I hadn't thought of it in Biblical terms, but you make some interesting points.
As for the two creation stories, I tend to think that the Sixth Day humans were the assorted pre-civilization humans and humanoids that predate the Young Earth timeline. Adam and Eve were made later. They were the first people to be given the Holy Spirit.
Note that the very first evidence of civilization is in the vicinity of Eden. Still a bit older than the standard Biblical timeline, but if tie together the geneologies of early Genesis in the same fashion as is done for the Hebrew exile in Egypt, Adam and Eve do correspond to the first civilized humans.
And you don't need all that incest.
<<"I found Barbie to be a surprisingly good movie. It his some woke themes and dealt with them playfully instead of earnestly -- which is what good comedy should do. It made fun of over the top chip on the shoulder feminism AND over the top bro culture. It played fair.">>
Well put.
<<"As for the two creation stories, I tend to think that the Sixth Day humans were the assorted pre-civilization humans and humanoids that predate the Young Earth timeline. Adam and Eve were made later. They were the first people to be given the Holy Spirit.">>
That's an interesting possibility. Genesis really is the OG rabbit hole. There are so many interesting things in that book. Even though I disagree with the people who think it can be straightforwardly read in order to get the literal truth about God and human origins, I do think Genesis is full of profound and very mysterious insights.
Interesting!
https://jmpolemic.substack.com/p/peering-into-eden
This is the best analysis of this film that I have read by far! I try to be read up on all things esoteric, but I learned some new things today. Thanks!
Thanks, and glad you enjoyed it! I was really pleasantly surprised by this movie.
It was a strange synchronicity that you wrote this, and Mark Bisone also wrote a piece challenging how we read/ understand some of the Old Testament stories. So much of it, is simply taken for granted. Whereas, you and Mark both hint that perhaps there is a more to the story, particularly the ones where “God” seems to act/ command in contradictory ways.
https://open.substack.com/pub/markbisone/p/the-horror-and-the-glory-part-1?r=1ozeg3&utm_medium=ios
Yeah, I really enjoyed Mark's post and also was struck by how we were independently working along a similar theme. I think there's definitely something we're both picking up on. The OT has some great stuff, but it also has some questionable stuff, and I think the Bible has been deliberately warped and subverted by some malevolent social engineers.
A fascinating take on the movie, well done! I had a distinctly different take, which is that Barbie world represents the realm of the spirit, eternal. Or the demonic, if you will. So you have this realm of (evil) spirits who feel the desire to become flesh, as does Barbie, and as do some rather infamous biblical angels. She accomplishes this by creating an idol of herself to give to children, that replaces their ancestral instinct with her own will (cue the destroying motherhood scene). The shit-lib becomes her receptive medium, and she takes over (via subterfuge and feminine wiles) the wills and perhaps the souls of real living people. It is then perhaps a small step to becoming a ‘real girl’, or a demonic spirit occupying a real body.
This is all just my own paranoia, however it is true that the Barbie movie premiered at the same time as Oppenheimer, creating “Barbenheimer”. Some occultists state that the nuclear fission accomplished in 1945 was a kind of “gateway” opened between our physical dimension and a spiritual or demonic realm. Note how traveling in various mythic vehicles or archetypes is key to traveling between Barbie land (spirit world) and our physical world. Also note the tribe of Oppenheimer and Ruth Handler as enablers.
Very interesting possibility! The movie definitely has the theme of the memetic contagion of ideas and how ideas manifest in the "real world" and the relationships between the humans who have ideas and the ideas that have the humans.
Very interesting thanks for that retelling I will be interested to see the movie now.
When you mentioned the ending, checking in for her appointment and giving her name as “Barbara Handler.” She has taken her creator’s name, signifying her new identity.
It made me think of John 10:30 I and the Father are one, and Jesus made it clear that the kingdom of God was within you.
I think you might find this esoteric translation interesting as is the whole website,
https://www.spiritofthescripture.com/id2347-what-does-the-garden-of-eden-represent.html
I very much enjoyed your dive into the Eden myth at the beginning. There's something about that story (and the story of the Flood) that keeps me enthralled. I'm not especially interested in the Barbie movie but this is definitely the most fascinating related piece I've read!
https://open.substack.com/pub/jmpolemic/p/peering-into-eden
With as much ink spilled interpreting what this movie was saying, it is very possibly a great movie. Time will tell. If these themes matter to people in the future, this movie will have achieved greatness.
I have not seen this. But I will get a copy and watch it and think on it. Too many Very Smart People have launched into lengthy diatribes on the meanings in this movie. It must have something in it to generate such interest with so many variations of interpretation.
Thanks for the essay. Insightful.